Photogrrlz wrote: To clear up things about restricted access. First of all, many people who visit this site have kids and I think it should be up to the parent to decide if their child should be able to view some subjects on here. After all many kids use the same computers as their parents. Hence why the adult sections are restricted.
I don't agree, but I understand. There's enough parental control software out on the market- for free- that you can use. Let the parent be the parent.
Photogrrlz wrote: As for The Family Catergory there are many topics that concern only the GLBT community and does not need the opinion of someone who just wants to be a smartass.
I think it's hiliarous that you have "The Family" area blocked. I don't know what the GLBT is. But to the "smartass" comment, you did say we can say whatever we want, right?
But even if you find some members distasteful, you have alternatve quality control. The first of which I thought you had in place already: check people at the door. If they are general asshats in O.com, don't let the post here. But another thing you can do, and I know this goes against the socialist mentality, is you can look at the individual on the case-by-case basis. If they say something you find offensive, do what you got to do as an admin. That'd be like me going out and just locking everyone up and putting them in jail until they can prove they can be an honest citizen. You're doing bass-ackwards.
Photogrrlz wrote: People do have serious issues to share and to be honest not everyone (including myself at times) are adult enough to act that way.
So, then tell me, Photo. What areas are you restricted from? Are you even restricted from the guys area? Because it's not fair that a woman like you can check ou tthe guys area and none of us guys can check out the women's area. Never call me sexist, that's all I'm sayin.
Photogrrlz wrote: Also for the guys and girls thread, there are issues just like Family Catergory that does not need everyone and their grandmother to view.
Then can't they request to be restricted rather than the other way around. Because I bet the vast majority of people here would rather read every area rather than not.
Photogrrlz wrote: Some things are personal and that is why a sub forum is created.
If it's personal, keep it off the internet. It's called a forum. Do I need to go to dictionary.com and post the definition of that word?
Photogrrlz wrote: As for your comment about say as you want about O.com and never being kept out of a forum, that is because you meet the criteria to be able to post in all the areas.
I've seen civilians post in cop-only areas many times. The restrictions on o.com are reactive, not proactive. And even if someone can't post in an area, they can read in them.
Photogrrlz wrote: If your having issues of not being able to see a topic, well that seems like a issue that you have to deal with not a issue for everyone else to deal with.
Great attitude.
Photogrrlz wrote: I have recieved nothing, but positive feedback for the things that are done with this forum and alot of what is done I seek the opinions of other memebers before actually doing.
I'm calling BS on this one. Because I've "whined"(as Styx so elequently put in) about many things. So if "all you've gotten was positive feedback", it's because you've ignored the negative feedback.
I'm not trying to be all negative (I'm just not given much choice). I think this site was a great idea. As the admin, you are a leader of sorts. Now, you can be the leader that lets people kiss their ass and hang anyone who doesn't, or you can listen to people like me who support you enough to not blow smoke up your ass and tell what they think is wrong with an otherwise good forum. If I hated this place, do you think I'd even bother posting? I'm not trying to keep you down, I'm being frank and honest. If you want me to be one of the kiss-ass "ooooh- you're a girl" atomatons who just nod their heads with every little thing you do or say, just say so. I'm a team player. But if you want advice, opinions, and other feedback to make this place even better, then I suggest-humbely- that you rather than going on the defensive right away, you simply think about what me and other people who "whine" are saying.
Photogrrlz wrote: Whenever someone needed access to an area if they meet the correct criteria they have never been turned down.
"IF"... "IF"...
Photogrrlz wrote: I appreciate the fact that you have come over here, but like any house as you used as an example there are rules. Hopes this clears things up.
I can respect rules. Just not when they make it appear the admin is on a petty power trip. Can you just keep us from posting in certain areas rather than preventing them from reading?
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Actually let me put this in a more to the point type saying. If you don't like the rules of the forum go create your own. Then you can decide what "power trip" to go on. If I was on a power trip, I can think of plenty more things to do on here that is "restrictive" to people to get their panties in a wad because they aren't able to get into the girls or gay folks only section.
And guess what, as the admin of the place I do get access to the areas. So if you want to whine about that go ahead, but I don't pay attention to what the males have to say that is why there is a male mod in place.
It seems that ever since there has been a guy or girl catergory created you have started to whine, why didn't you whine before about the private areas or was that because you have access to those areas?
This maybe a no hold barred type attitude on the forum, but like any place there are rules that some folks like and some don't. You just happen to be the minority that doesn't like what has been put in place.
I kindly answered your question on this topic and this is the last time I am discussing it.
-- Edited by Photogrrlz at 01:16, 2006-02-21
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Centurion, I don't know what's the right thing for Photo to do in this situation. All I know is that I personally have enjoyed having a females-only forum, and one for the gay and lesbian community. I think I'm generally pretty open, and don't mind talking about personal issues on the internet, but it's kind of nice to be able to discuss things with people I feel will understand. Particularly in the family section, and especially since I'm very new to that communty, I'd like to know that there are no "gawkers" or people who are there to be judgemental. (Not saying that you are either of those things.)
I agree that the internet is not a place to expect privacy, but if we can have some semblance of it because the admin has made an extra effort to set it up that way, why can't we take advantage of that? I don't think it's anything personal against you or anyone else.
Photo has done an amazing job with this site, and we should all give her a lot of credit. Some may disagree, but I think the fact that she and Buttercup have all the responsibility gives them the right to make the decisions and not have to please everyone all the time. Also, as far as you being invited, I think almost all of us were. I was glad to see you show up here, because I've always liked you on O.com. I just wish you could try to enjoy this place without taking the Restricted thing so seriously.
-- Edited by entre new at 01:27, 2006-02-21
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Photogrrlz wrote: Actually let me put this in a more to the point type saying. If you don't like the rules of the forum go create your own. Then you can decide what "power trip" to go on. If I was on a power trip, I can think of plenty more things to do on here that is "restrictive" to people to get their panties in a wad because they aren't able to get into the girls or gay folks only section.
I didn't know we had a gay folks only section. *shrug* I don't know what all I'm still locked out of, honestly. But my whole point to this tread was to a) vent, and b) let you know what I dislike about this forum so you could intergrate it into what you already know and maybe make it a better site. However, I can tell you prefer to just have people kowtow and kiss your fanny and tell you Rome is perfectly safe as it's burning around you. So be it- you'll never hear me "whine" about this forum again. Long live the Empire.
Photogrrlz wrote: And guess what, as the admin of the place I do get access to the areas.
I just wanted that sentence to sit there on it's own.
Photogrrlz wrote: ; It seems that ever since there has been a guy or girl catergory created you have started to whine, why didn't you whine before about the private areas or was that because you have access to those areas?
While looking for my other posts, I read that "the Family" section is the Gay and Lesbian section you were talking about. That's pretty funny that you only have to be gay to go in there. I guess that gets me off the hook. The next demonstration I go to with my gay and lesbian friends, I'll tell them I won't go since I'm not "family". Thanks!
Photogrrlz wrote: This maybe a no hold barred type attitude on the forum, but like any place there are rules that some folks like and some don't. You just happen to be the minority that doesn't like what has been put in place.
Or maybe I'm the only person around here that cares enough to say something. But if you want to live in that particular fantasy, you right of course, Empress.
Photogrrlz wrote: kindly answered your question on this topic and this is the last time I am discussing it. -- Edited by Photogrrlz at 01:16, 2006-02-21
Yes, Empress.
PS- I just noticed something again while editiing this post before posting... the person that bitched about the censorship (which was fixed was a female)... I'm a straight male, and you were on about not letting me in the gay/lesbian area... it becomes so clear now. LOL. I'll just wait for someone with a pair of tits to bitch about the same things and I'm sure you'll fix it. So no worries.
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Photogrrlz wrote: Actually let me put this in a more to the point type saying. If you don't like the rules of the forum go create your own. Then you can decide what "power trip" to go on. If I was on a power trip, I can think of plenty more things to do on here that is "restrictive" to people to get their panties in a wad because they aren't able to get into the girls or gay folks only section. I didn't know we had a gay folks only section. *shrug* I don't know what all I'm still locked out of, honestly. But my whole point to this tread was to a) vent, and b) let you know what I dislike about this forum so you could intergrate it into what you already know and maybe make it a better site. However, I can tell you prefer to just have people kowtow and kiss your fanny and tell you Rome is perfectly safe as it's burning around you. So be it- you'll never hear me "whine" about this forum again. Long live the Empire. Photogrrlz wrote: And guess what, as the admin of the place I do get access to the areas. I just wanted that sentence to sit there on it's own. Photogrrlz wrote: ; It seems that ever since there has been a guy or girl catergory created you have started to whine, why didn't you whine before about the private areas or was that because you have access to those areas? No, bitched before then. I guess because I didn't kiss-ass you didn't read it. I bitched In this thread,in this thread (about the censorship you fixed when someone else bitched about that, and a couple of other places. I seem to remember bitching in the Admin section too, but I can't find it. While looking for my other posts, I read that "the Family" section is the Gay and Lesbian section you were talking about. That's pretty funny that you only have to be gay to go in there. I guess that gets me off the hook. The next demonstration I go to with my gay and lesbian friends, I'll tell them I won't go since I'm not "family". Thanks! Photogrrlz wrote: This maybe a no hold barred type attitude on the forum, but like any place there are rules that some folks like and some don't. You just happen to be the minority that doesn't like what has been put in place. Or maybe I'm the only person around here that cares enough to say something. But if you want to live in that particular fantasy, you right of course, Empress. Photogrrlz wrote: kindly answered your question on this topic and this is the last time I am discussing it. -- Edited by Photogrrlz at 01:16, 2006-02-21 Yes, Empress. PS- I just noticed something again while editiing this post before posting... the person that bitched about the censorship (which was fixed was a female)... I'm a straight male, and you were on about not letting me in the gay/lesbian area... it becomes so clear now. LOL. I'll just wait for someone with a pair of tits to bitch about the same things and I'm sure you'll fix it. So no worries.
Someone please help him! I do believe he's got his dick tied in a knot!
I guess I have to agree with Centurian on this. The forum started out as a great alternative and quickly digressed into a private party that is run by a few elitists who feel free to bash, criticize, and lock out those whom they feel are inferior. I never expected to see that here and I'm a little disappointed in some here that are taking on a different persona than the kinder one they have in other forums. But, as I read already, If I don't like it...leave. See ya's.